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Rebellious Children and Dead Eyes . . . Proverbs 30:17

11/30/2010

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The eye that mocks a father And scorns a mother, The ravens of the valley will pick it out, And the young eagles will eat it. Proverbs 30:17

This proverb is one of those that seems a little harsh when you first read it - especially if you've ever been disrespectful to your parents.  Your average kid might say, "You mean to say that if I scorn my parents, I'm doomed to have scavenger birds peck my eye out and eat it?"  Since we know that not every rebellious child and teenager has had his eyes destroyed by a flock of ravens and eagles - we know that this passage has more to teach us than just a scary warning that probably would not work on kids anyway.  But just what is this proverb trying to show us?

The key comes in understanding why a bird - especially a scavenger would have any interest in an animal's eyes.  You see both of the birds mentioned in this passage are scavengers.  That means that they both eat dead things.  But one practice that ravens have as they approach carrion is that they need to be sure it is dead.  That can mean the difference in having a meal and being one to the raven.  Therefore when a raven suspects an animal to be dead - he goes straight for the eye.  The raven lands near the animal and sees if the animal makes any movements.  Then when the raven detects that things are clear for the most part - he subjects the animal to the ultimate test as to whether it is alive or dead.  He pecks at the animal's eye.  If an animal does not move to protect the eye, it is dead.  As the raven picks out the eye of the animal - it assures him that the animal is dead.  Often early in the meal that follows, a larger predator - which is where the young eagle comes in - will arrive and take over the meal from the raven, who wisely knows when he is outmatched. 

Now, let's take what we've learned from nature - and apply it to what is said in this passage.  When a young person feels his oats enough to begin mocking his own father and mother it is a very dangerous sign.  The reference to the raven and the young eagle is not a direct threat - but rather a reminder.  He is spiritually dead.  This is not so much a threat of future aviary retribution - but of the spiritual reality of where this young man or woman is.  God promises us that the one who honors his mother and father will live long on the earth.  Great blessing is in store for the child who learns about respect, honor, and submission in subjection to his parents.  These are vital lessons to learn if he or she is going to be successful in life - and after life is over.  These come through properly relating to one's parents.  If we don't learn them in the home - we will face learning them out in the world where the cost to learn them is far higher than it is with mom and dad. 

One last thing that we need to note here is that we are not talking about open rebellion here - but the "eye" that mocks father and mother.  This is as much a look as it is an action.  I remember my mother telling me not to look at her in that tone of voice.  It was a little bit of a joke - but not really.  She knew, and so did my father, when my eyes were revealing what was really going on in my heart.  The eyes are the window to the soul - and reveal much of what is truly going on in our hearts.  Thus we need to be careful to not only watch our words concerning our parents, but also the way our eyes function as well.  Quite often we might be obeying in our outward members - but our eyes reveal another story altogether.  Remember then, that when the scavengers come looking for the dead - they come looking for those who are dead in their eyes.  When a wise man seeks to determine whether someone is spiritually alive or dead - he can learn much in how a person treats their parents. 
12 Comments
DRUE link
1/8/2019 08:34:44 pm

This was a great help to me the way you explained the connection to the eyes and how the raven approached them to check for death. Dead eyes! It also caused me to see it as a dead spirit. And how the eagle, the greater bird, will come and take over as the lesser bird flees. Very useful for me. Thanks

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Jean acupressure Mat link
2/26/2020 03:56:27 am

Very powerful proverb and one that I go back and read from time to time.

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JLCL
5/4/2021 10:38:15 pm

Our son has recently changed dramatically, after meeting a new girlfriend. His spiritual walk seems non-existent now. His eyes, his mouth, his behavior, his snarkiness, attitude, and mocking tone and words were a shock. Even more shocking were his words of finality and cursing and calling evil names to his own parents that he loved just 5 months ago, ....for 23 years! We pray for him constantly, yet know that God's Word is true. This verse is both frightening and revealing. God help him.

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Shakira
8/24/2024 10:45:28 pm

I feel your pain 🙏🏽♥️

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Alien
10/29/2022 05:42:51 am

I think that putting this content up is incredibly horrid thing to do, and to justify that this fear based emotional manipulation by the bible to get children to behave is unbelievable. I have distinct memories of breaking down when my parents had me convinced ravens would pick my eyes out because the bible said so so i think this post could be more sensitive

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Evelyn Olsen
3/16/2023 11:28:46 am

I suppose you have never been disrespected by your adult children who mock you and treat you in a condescending way. How old are you? Surely you are not elderly and have no idea what it is like to be treated with disdain by your own children who you have done everything you could to give them the best life and they turn against you anyway BECAUSE that is the sign of the times. Obiviously this Proverb was not literal, but it does speak of how God feels about the way children treat their parents like they are below them.

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Pearl
9/30/2024 12:51:00 pm

I recently have been getting disrespected by my older children whom I’ve always provided for and tried my best to give them the life I wish I had growing up. As a single mom it’s hard. We don’t have anyone to defend us in the home. Reading this verse made me feel like man I too was spiritually dead when I was young. I talked back to my mother so much and said so many hurtful things to her because of the life style she was living. Reflecting on it now, there was still no excuse to dishonor my mother, she still tried for us even tho she wasn’t living right. I pray my two older children understand this now and get it while they’re young.

mocked parent
10/29/2022 06:06:19 am

Very good commentary. Met with my rebellious daughter recently, after a season of distance. Wow. The first thing: slit eyes, mocking tone, curled lip. The eyes were the weirdest part. She had changed sooooo much. All her new friends and new mentors/non-Biblical were advising her to scorn and mock. I have no idea what will happen to her. I am seeing her change before my very eyes. All we can do as parents is pray and leave them to God. We are Joseph, Daniel and Job -- left in the pit, the lion's den, and bereft of our child. Trying each day to trust that God will not let her slip, and that I have trained up a child in the way he/she should go. In the end, I have done right by her, the rest is up to her.

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Honor your parents
10/30/2022 11:11:51 pm

To see the spiritual death of a child in their eyes is truly a consumption that no parent wants to see.

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Robert
8/30/2023 05:29:24 am

I appreciate the commentary, respecting parents in our heart is an important foundation to a broken heart and thus a successful life. The proverb also speaks to me as a warning that mocking your father and scorning your mother will make you spiritually blind. Your hardened heart will not be able to see life circumstances clearly to guide you in making wise decisions for your life. It should also be pointed out the verse does not just for young children, but for the very old also. It is never too late to respect our parents, even if they are no longer alive, it is good for our soul. For the adult it does not mean, to obey them, but it means to hold them up in honor in your heart.

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Hurt Parent
8/30/2023 07:38:21 am

I had no idea this verse was in the Bible. Obviously, teen/young adult rebellion has been going on forever. That gives some relief. It's nothing new. The headlines today are filled with 'estrangements' of all sorts: from Megan Markle to Brittney Spears, etc. Obvious open rebellion and disagreements with loving parents. It is a delicate thing to respect, honor parents -- while one begins to lead their own life. It isn't impossible, but it requires work.

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Shakira
8/24/2024 10:53:34 pm

We are living in the last days & the Bible is just fulfilling itself. Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial that has come upon you, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you share in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed at the revelation of His glory.… 1 Peter 4:12-13

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